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Quantum Gauntlet

Discussion in 'Item Ideas' started by mutantmagnet, Jul 14, 2017.

  1. mutantmagnet

    mutantmagnet Member

    Sep 10, 2011

    105 attack speed
    35 strength

    Active - Conduit

    For 1.7 seconds allies can target you with their single target offensive spells and you'll redirect them towards the selected enemy.

    7.5 second CD
    Cast range 440.
    Search radius 80. (ground targetable now, applies vision over target for duration)
    mana cost 35

    Only the buff can be dispelled.

    If Buff is dispelled while allies' offensive spell is heading towards you, you take the damage and status effect.

    Enemy still takes damage if dispelled after spell was redirected.

    When redirected the cast range is recalculated based on the distance between the conduit and the target. If the target is out of range before the redirection occurs the conduit takes the damage and negative effect.

    Instant travel spells have .3 second delay before being redirected. (thus ensuring a chance the conduit takes damage and effect if dispelled quickly enough.)

    When the enemy is damaged by a redirected spell the original caster is not revealed in Fog of War unless the buff was dispelled in time.

    Kill credit goes to original spell caster. Kill bounty is split between caster and conduit. Effect bonuses based on kills go to the original caster (such as spawn spiderlings). Effect bonuses based on anything else are shared by the caster and conduit (like if batrider was equipped with Quantum Gauntlet, a redirected spell would also get amplified by Sticky Napalm stacks).

    Spells that can be ground targeted can't be redirected by the conduit.

    Spells that have an effect that differs based on ally or enemy will act as an enemy targeted cast as long as the conduit buff is active before it gets redirected.


    The applications of an item like this are numerous.

    Change log
    Increased cast range
    Made it ground targetable
    Allow it to share vision of target for duration
    increased duration

    Increased cool down.
    Added mana cost.
    Last edited: Aug 10, 2017
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  2. Jon

    Jon Member

    Feb 24, 2012
    Why do you lose the Hand of Midas active?
  3. mutantmagnet

    mutantmagnet Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    The active is simply replaced for another one.

    That in of itself isn't something worth quibbling over.

    HHHNNNGGG Member

    Sep 21, 2010
    I haven't seen any good application of this active aside from being a clunky range-extension...
  5. mutantmagnet

    mutantmagnet Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    This isn't clunky, it's awesome.

    The applications are simply numerous.

    So numerous I'll have to group it up into a few overarching discussion points.

    This item is:

    1. A team fight coordinator.
    2. A method of hiding positioning.
    3. A huge range extender.

    The gauntlet will make pubs more fun because it allows your initiator or core objective taker to call shots more efficiently. They can run up to any group of enemies and use the Conduit to focus control and/or spell damage to a specific target even if they themselves are attacking a different target. No other item naturally helps with complex coordination like this would.

    Aether lens is a fairly popular item and it only increases ranges by 220. The gauntlet though doubles cast ranges. Don't forget this doesn't just affect normal spells but also orb walking. Jakiro with a 1600 liquid fire cast range? Drow Ranger with a 1260 attack range for 1.2 seconds every 4.8 seconds? That's crazy good.

    This means it greatly helps with chasing because typically it is the top 2 farmed heroes on each team that typically have the fastest movement speed. Now a lesser farmed team mate can keep up casting spells for a longer period at a longer distance and thus increasing the chances of more kills being gained.

    Then there is the fact that using Conduit doesn't reveal the original spell caster in Fog of War. This has the most profound effect during night time but it also effects how sieges at towers and Roshan are handled.

    For example when Radiant tries to take dire offlane and position their team to be safe but readily available for a fight those teammates are entirely dependent on tree cover but at least one will still be as far up as the tower being attacked but to the side. Such positioning forces even more team mates into the trees at the side the most forward person picked. With the Quantum Gauntlet the positioning of the team can be dictated by the person who is hitting the towers instead and the rest of them will have much safer positioning.

    If the item is held by the initiator then that person can more freely scout ahead and know his or her teammates can quickly support them if she or he uses the active quickly enough.

    It even helps your team defensively because casting spells generally betrays your position and in many cases a support wants to avoid dying when the enemy properly starts the fight on their team. By not showing where the original spellcaster is it significantly slows down the enemy core's ability to track them and kill them off before they get away after using up their spell.

    I could go on some more but I feel how great the item is should be apparent.

    The only flaw is the gimped cast range for the active ability.
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  6. summer-penguin

    summer-penguin Moderator Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2011
    That icon is magnificent. O_O
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  7. SataNiK Gui

    SataNiK Gui Member

    Apr 12, 2017
    The coordination required to make this work is impossible. 330 cast range, unit target and in 1.2 seconds your ally has to target you w/ an ability (including the skill cast time and etc) so that it can bounce to the hero you targeted.
    And what happens to the midas?
  8. Charados

    Charados New Member

    May 1, 2016
    1.2 -> 2 sec pls
    6 - 9 sec CD pls
    Idea of this item is pretty huge. Like it.
    Aaaand I think this item for late game, when there's no requierment for Midas

    Would buy for DK, 10/10
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2017
  9. mutantmagnet

    mutantmagnet Member

    Sep 10, 2011
    I've taken into account some of the feedback here and made some changes. Since I've lessened the range requirements this item will get a mana cost to apply pressure pn this resource.

    The biggest deal is that it now has ground targeting like Zeus' lightning bolt. So in addition to being a coordiantioin tool it's now also a scouting and anti juking tool.

    This might be too much utility.