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[CTH] Tallef, the Rogue Spirit

Discussion in 'Hero Ideas' started by DotaFrom2003, Mar 9, 2018.

  1. DotaFrom2003

    DotaFrom2003 New Member

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    Story of the Hero:

    Tallef is a Agility Dire Hero

    Tallef is a good Carry, that can deal so Much damage, he is so powerful that he can be untrusted from his Allies.

    :carry::agimain::nuker:

    :movespeed: 300
    :int: 16 + 2.0
    :agimain: 22 + 3
    :str: 18 + 2.2
    :armor: 3
    Base Mana: 450
    Base Health: 675
    :damage:
    30-45
    Base Attack Time: 1.38s

    Roles: :nuker::carry:

    [​IMG] VISION OF DEATH
    (Target):bkbblockno: :linkensblockyes:
    (AoE) :bkbblockno: :linkensblockno:

    The rogue spirit show the enemy a vision of his own death than render him vunerable and make him run in terror.

    Ability: Target
    Cast Animation: 0.7
    Fear Duration: 1/1.75/2.5/3.25
    Critical Damage: 110/120/130/140%
    Critical Chance: 100%
    PIERCES SPELL IMMUNITY: NO

    :cooldown:
    22/18/14/10
    :mana: 60/90/120/150


    [​IMG] Spectral Dash

    Rogue Spirit moves through the enemies in his spectral forme leaving them chilled and slowed.
    :bkbblockno:

    Ability: No Target
    Cast Animation: 0.3
    Dash Range: 600/650/700/750 ([​IMG] 850/900/950/1000)
    Enemy Slow (Movement Speed): 50%
    Enemy Slow Duration: 1.75/2.5/3.25/4
    AoE while Dashing to Slow: 300
    PIERCES SPELL IMMUNITY: NO

    Note:
    • AoE while Dashing to Slow means if an Enemy is on 300 AoE of Rogue Spirit (while dashing) will be Slowed

    :cooldown:
    7

    [​IMG] Vital Striking

    Rogue Spirit gains a bonus damage attack after each succesful hit and applies miss chance stackable for its duration

    :bkbblockyes:

    Ability: Passive
    Miss Chance per Stack: 0.5/0.75/1/1.25%
    Bonus Damage per Stack: 4/6/8/10
    Miss Chance Duration: 30s ([​IMG] 60s)
    Bonus Damage Duration: 60s ([​IMG] 90s)

    [​IMG] Treacherous Incantation

    Rogue Spirit channels an incantation that breaks the control of allies and enemies upon themselfs and make them mindless bodies that attack anyone on sight

    :bkbblockyes:

    Ability: Channeling | AOE
    Cast Animation: 1.5
    Duration: 4/5/6 ([​IMG] 6/7/8)
    Cast Range: 800
    AoE: 500/600/700
    PIERCES SPELL IMMUNITY: YES

    :cooldown: 80/70/60
    :mana: 100/150/200

    1.5:
    • Removed Spectral Dash Manacost
    • Spectral Dash Cooldown Reduced from 8 to 7
    • Spectral Dash Movement Speed slow Duration Rescaled from 1/2/3/4 to 1.75/2.5/3.25/4
    • Spectral Dash no longer Pierces Spell Immunity
    • Vitral Striking Miss Chance Duration Reduced from 60 to 30
    1.4:
    • Vision of Death Fear Duration Increased from 1/1.75/2.25/3 to 1/1.75/2.5/3.25
    • Vital Striking Miss Chance Duration Reduced from 80 to 60
    • Level 20 Talent Tree: Increased Vital Striking Bonus Damage & Miss Chance Duration from 20s to 30s
    • Level 25 Talent Tree: Reduced Treacherous Incantation Channeling Duration from 3 to 2
    1.3:
    • Vision of Death Manacost Rescaled from 80/100/120/140 to 60/90/120/150
    • Treacherous Incantation Channeling Duration Increased from 3/4/5 to 4/5/6
    • Treacherous Incantation Cast Animation increased from 0.7 to 1.5
    • Level 25 Talent Tree : Vision of Death AoE Increased from 500 to 600
    • Level 15 Talent Tree: Reduced Attack Speed from 60 to 45
    1.2:
    • Spectral Dash AoE while dashing to Slow increased from 200 to 300
    • Vital Striking Bonus Damage per Stack Reduced from 5/7/9/11 to 4/6/8/10
    • Vital Striking Miss Chance per Stack Increased from 0.25/0.5/0.75/1% to 0.5/0.75/1/1.25
    1.1:
    • Spectral Dash Increased Dash Range from 450/550/650/750 to 600/650/700/750
    • Spectral Dash Movespeed Slow increased from 25% to 50%
    • Spectral Dash Cooldown Reduced from 12 to 8
    • Spectral Dash Manacost Reduced from 75 to 50
    • Vital Striking Now works only on the Attacked enemy (Bonus Damage)
    • Vital Striking if the Enemy is affected by it and dies, the debuff is removed
    • Level 20 Talent: +200 Dash Range increased to +250 Dash Range (in the total of range has been increased from 650/750/850/950 to 850/900/950/1000)
    1.0:
    • Created
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2018 at 1:44 PM
  2. summer-penguin

    summer-penguin Moderator Staff Member

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    Let me ask for some dots in your is, DF03.

    BAT 1.38?
    Why not a flat 1.3 or 1.4, as usual?

    Vision of Death states that it does not pierce spell immunity but it has in it an icon saying that it does.

    Spectral Dash states that it does pierce spell immunity but it has in it an icon saying that it doesn't.

    In fact, the description and the spell immunity icon were exchanged in all your abilities.

    [​IMG] This one, is for PIERCES SPELL IMMUNITY.
    [​IMG] This one, is for DOES NOT PIERCE SPELL IMMUNITY.

    Run in terror.
    Run where? A random direction? Back to the fountain?

    Spectral Dash is looking terribly weak.
    Cooldown is huge.
    Cast range is petite. (specially on its early levels)
    The slow is (very) very small, specially if you consider its early durations.
    Does it slow attackspeed as well?
    Attackspeed slow is not stated in %. It's a flat number.
    It is instant?
    Meaning you'll dash foward. You have to state that in its description: "Rogue Spirit moves FOWARD through the enemies in his spectral forme leaving them chilled and slowed."

    Vital Striking lasts too long.
    Either it has to add less dmg per stack, or have a max of stacks, or last a lot less.
    10 hits and I'll be hitting for +110 dmg. I'll have you sent back to base before I can use that, sure, but w/ that duration I'll have you for lunch the moment you come back.
    God... w/ that duration I can even wait for you to respawn. And TP back. And I'll have you for dinner.

    That's all.
    5 cents.
     
  3. DotaFrom2003

    DotaFrom2003 New Member

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    Oh yeah the pierce spell immunity i messed up lol sorry

    Run in terror yes random :)
     
    Last edited: Mar 13, 2018
  4. summer-penguin

    summer-penguin Moderator Staff Member

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    That icon is very confusing, tbh.
    Seeing the bkb active and colored gives me impression that Spell Immunity blocks it. And seeing it disabled gives me the impression that Spell Immunity does not block it.
    But Dota 2 Wiki uses it au contraire.
     
  5. DotaFrom2003

    DotaFrom2003 New Member

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    I Tought that too lol in shadow path i was seeing the name of each Image thats why i putted the right but here i forgeted already
     
  6. DotaFrom2003

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    1.1:
    • Spectral Dash Increased Dash Range from 450/550/650/750 to 600/650/700/750
    • Spectral Dash Movespeed Slow increased from 25% to 50%
    • Spectral Dash Cooldown Reduced from 12 to 8
    • Spectral Dash Manacost Reduced from 75 to 50
    • Vital Striking Now works only on the Attacked enemy (Bonus Damage)
    • Vital Striking if the Enemy is affected by it and dies, the debuff is removed
    • Level 20 Talent: +200 Dash Range increased to +250 Dash Range (in the total of range has been increased from 650/750/850/950 to 850/900/950/1000)
     
  7. DotaFrom2003

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    1.2:
    • Spectral Dash AoE while dashing to Slow increased from 200 to 300
    • Vital Striking Bonus Damage per Stack Reduced from 5/7/9/11 to 4/6/8/10
    • Vital Striking Miss Chance per Stack Increased from 0.25/0.5/0.75/1% to 0.5/0.75/1/1.25
     
  8. DotaFrom2003

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    1.3:
    • Vision of Death Cooldown Rescaled from 80/100/120/140 to 60/90/120/150
    • Treacherous Incantation Channeling Duration Increased from 3/4/5 to 4/5/6
    • Treacherous Incantation Cast Animation increased from 0.7 to 1.5
    • Level 25 Talent Tree : Vision of Death AoE Increased from 500 to 600
    • Level 15 Talent Tree: Reduced Attack Speed from 60 to 45
     
  9. DotaFrom2003

    DotaFrom2003 New Member

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    1.4:
    • Vision of Death Fear Duration Increased from 1/1.75/2.25/3 to 1/1.75/2.5/3.25
    • Vital Striking Miss Chance Duration Reduced from 80 to 60
    • Level 20 Talent Tree: Increased Vital Striking Bonus Damage & Miss Chance Duration from 20s to 30s
    • Level 25 Talent Tree: Reduced Treacherous Incantation Channeling Duration from 3 to 2
     
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    1.5:
    • Removed Spectral Dash Manacost
    • Spectral Dash Cooldown Reduced from 8 to 7
    • Spectral Dash Movement Speed slow Duration Rescaled from 1/2/3/4 to 1.75/2.5/3.25/4
    • Spectral Dash no longer Pierces Spell Immunity
    • Vitral Striking Miss Chance Duration Reduced from 60 to 30