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Balanar

Discussion in 'Dota Chat' started by Louie!, Jun 26, 2018.

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  1. Louie!

    Louie! Member

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    His Overpowered in night!!
    No one can touch him at night!!
    Balanar grants :

    90% IAS
    35% IMS
    4 sec slow spell
    8 sec silence spell
    50% to miss an attack spell
    2 sec Flight spell
    25% vision reduce spell

    What more do you need than above thing??
    Just dont stay close to him on night!!
     
  2. slipkwar

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  3. Lama051

    Lama051 Moderator Staff Member

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    Well if they want to take NS this way they should make him even more polarized
     
  4. Mimic

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    He needs lifesteal because vampire
     
  5. slipkwar

    slipkwar Member

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    No one has ever done!!!

    It fits his theme...how many years since he is in the game and yet no lifesteal?
     
  6. Volcove

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    Interestingly, the balance changes to the hero have a certain irony behind them.

    Long ago during DotA All-Star days, he started out as almost useless during the day (as Void didn't slow at all, and Crippling Fear didn't do anything), and was mostly considered a pub-stomper at best during this period. Around the mid 6.xx series, however, he was slowly given some limited daytime capacity (Void retained the slow at half the duration, Crippling Fear got its 3 second silence & 10% miss during the day). With these and other miscellaneous changes, he finally became a true factor in serious games.

    Now, given that his daytime capabilities have been reduced significantly, things have come full circle in a way. He is almost worthless during daytime once again, just like he used to be many years ago.
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2018
  7. MrFrank

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    Night Stalker: Now deleted during the day
     
  8. ManOnTheCan

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    Now what do I do in the first four minutes :(
     
  9. Equivocal

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    Base armor reduced by 1 during day
     
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  10. slipkwar

    slipkwar Member

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    Uninstall Dora 2
     
  11. sweetsourpanda

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    I'd be okay with him being useless during the day if he was actually any good at night. Thing is, NS's true weakness is he was designed as a pubstomper back in the dota allstars days when people would sit and solo farm for 30-40 mins. He was a god back then. These days Dota is totally different. You won't find people farming alone to pick off. People are organized and stick together, and NS is worthless in a teamfight. Sure, get him DPS items and a BKB and he can right-click, but there are many heroes who could do that better.

    Blood can pick off solo heroes better than NS and blood has a much better laning phase and is more useful in team fights. NS is trash tier.
     
  12. ManOnTheCan

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    NS is fantastic during night... that's why he was nerfed o_O
     
  13. kamukag3e

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    I don't know why some of you think that he is weak during the night.

    His skirmish potential in the early-middle game is well known and late-game he provides superior vision and map control thanks to his abilities, Aghanim Scepter and ultimate.

    If you don't respect the information provided by unobstructed vision and lowered enemy vision - you deserve to lose every single game you are playing.

    The big duration of his ultimate coupled with the same cooldown makes big chunk of the game 'night' on it's own and that's not counting the normal cycle.
     
  14. GoD_Tyr

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    Hes walking aghanim nothing else. He has no aoe spells.
     
  15. kamukag3e

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    @GoD_Tyr:
    Plenty of heroes doesn't have AoE spells, doesn't mean they (or Night Stalker in particular) are useless, they have their roles.

    Walking Scepter is pretty accurate description, few heroes are in the same position - yet neglecting the advantage of higher and superior vision, especially coupled with detection.
     
  16. justsightseeing

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    Because apparently, buffing his daytime is wrong approach..

    Balanar buff that push the hero to god tier is the vision buff, both from flying in the night and limitation from the darkness.. Icefrog buff him correctly with the remake and need to counterbalance it with nerf to daytime balanar
     
  17. RisaStoleMyHart

    RisaStoleMyHart Moderator Staff Member

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    I remember a time when people actually feared a Night stalker mid as soon as first night happened. But then Icefrog changed first night time from 8 minute mark to 4 minutes.
     
  18. Thaelesk

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    Dota 2 dreadlord confirmed?
     
  19. MeTaL GuArD

    MeTaL GuArD Member

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    TFW OP revives a fossilized meme, and nobody realizes or notices while starting normal discussion.